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shikhar deep
2016-03-18 09:35:25 UTC
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Respected Sir/Madam

I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
*(JVM compatibility checker). *I saw the project ideas list of JBoss
Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
I have following skills(independent learning) :
->Core Java
->MySql
->C
I see myself as beginner but I am very very much interested in gaining more
& more practical knowledge from the best programmers.
Am I eligible to contribute to your project?
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Stephane Epardaud
2016-03-18 09:37:24 UTC
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Hi,

Absolutely!

Is this as part of GSoC or not?
Post by shikhar deep
Respected Sir/Madam
I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
*(JVM compatibility checker). *I saw the project ideas list of JBoss
Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
->Core Java
->MySql
->C
I see myself as beginner but I am very very much interested in gaining
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Am I eligible to contribute to your project?
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shikhar deep
2016-03-18 09:53:01 UTC
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yes it is a part of GSoC and sir you are mentor of Ceylon Programming
Language Project.Please tell me what should I do now?
Post by Stephane Epardaud
Hi,
Absolutely!
Is this as part of GSoC or not?
Post by shikhar deep
Respected Sir/Madam
I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
*(JVM compatibility checker). *I saw the project ideas list of JBoss
Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
->Core Java
->MySql
->C
I see myself as beginner but I am very very much interested in gaining
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Am I eligible to contribute to your project?
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Stephane Epardaud
2016-03-18 10:00:08 UTC
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OK in that case, we have put more info at
https://github.com/ceylon/ceylon/issues/6076 about this particular issue.
Post by shikhar deep
yes it is a part of GSoC and sir you are mentor of Ceylon Programming
Language Project.Please tell me what should I do now?
Post by Stephane Epardaud
Hi,
Absolutely!
Is this as part of GSoC or not?
Post by shikhar deep
Respected Sir/Madam
I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
*(JVM compatibility checker). *I saw the project ideas list of JBoss
Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
->Core Java
->MySql
->C
I see myself as beginner but I am very very much interested in gaining
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Am I eligible to contribute to your project?
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shikhar deep
2016-03-18 14:50:28 UTC
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ok so here you have raised an issue for Ceylon CLI tool for binary
compatibility checking and you are asking me to try resolving it,right?
But sir I am completely new to open source contribution..but I am trying my
level best to understand it.
I think I have no chance to get your mentorship :(
Post by Stephane Epardaud
OK in that case, we have put more info at
https://github.com/ceylon/ceylon/issues/6076 about this particular issue.
Post by shikhar deep
yes it is a part of GSoC and sir you are mentor of Ceylon Programming
Language Project.Please tell me what should I do now?
Post by Stephane Epardaud
Hi,
Absolutely!
Is this as part of GSoC or not?
Post by shikhar deep
Respected Sir/Madam
I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
*(JVM compatibility checker). *I saw the project ideas list of JBoss
Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
->Core Java
->MySql
->C
I see myself as beginner but I am very very much interested in gaining
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Am I eligible to contribute to your project?
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Stephane Epardaud
2016-03-18 14:56:19 UTC
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I'm not asking you to resolve it, I'm pointing you to where the issue is
open and documented so you can take a look at it and see if you feel up for
this project. GSoC selection happens after students apply anway, and after
they get a chance to see if they feel up to the task.
Post by shikhar deep
ok so here you have raised an issue for Ceylon CLI tool for binary
compatibility checking and you are asking me to try resolving it,right?
But sir I am completely new to open source contribution..but I am trying
my level best to understand it.
I think I have no chance to get your mentorship :(
Post by Stephane Epardaud
OK in that case, we have put more info at
https://github.com/ceylon/ceylon/issues/6076 about this particular issue.
Post by shikhar deep
yes it is a part of GSoC and sir you are mentor of Ceylon Programming
Language Project.Please tell me what should I do now?
Post by Stephane Epardaud
Hi,
Absolutely!
Is this as part of GSoC or not?
Post by shikhar deep
Respected Sir/Madam
I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
*(JVM compatibility checker). *I saw the project ideas list of JBoss
Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
->Core Java
->MySql
->C
I see myself as beginner but I am very very much interested in gaining
more & more practical knowledge from the best programmers.
Am I eligible to contribute to your project?
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shikhar deep
2016-03-18 15:23:57 UTC
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okay.. if so then yes I am comfortable for this project.I like programming
and I like challenges and moreover 2 months is a huge time,I am sure I can
do it.
Post by Stephane Epardaud
I'm not asking you to resolve it, I'm pointing you to where the issue is
open and documented so you can take a look at it and see if you feel up for
this project. GSoC selection happens after students apply anway, and after
they get a chance to see if they feel up to the task.
Post by shikhar deep
ok so here you have raised an issue for Ceylon CLI tool for binary
compatibility checking and you are asking me to try resolving it,right?
But sir I am completely new to open source contribution..but I am trying
my level best to understand it.
I think I have no chance to get your mentorship :(
Post by Stephane Epardaud
OK in that case, we have put more info at
https://github.com/ceylon/ceylon/issues/6076 about this particular issue.
Post by shikhar deep
yes it is a part of GSoC and sir you are mentor of Ceylon Programming
Language Project.Please tell me what should I do now?
Post by Stephane Epardaud
Hi,
Absolutely!
Is this as part of GSoC or not?
Post by shikhar deep
Respected Sir/Madam
I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
*(JVM compatibility checker). *I saw the project ideas list of JBoss
Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
->Core Java
->MySql
->C
I see myself as beginner but I am very very much interested in
gaining more & more practical knowledge from the best programmers.
Am I eligible to contribute to your project?
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Kumar Shikhar Deep
2016-03-19 07:35:44 UTC
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what should be the next step sir?
Post by shikhar deep
okay.. if so then yes I am comfortable for this project.I like programming
and I like challenges and moreover 2 months is a huge time,I am sure I can
do it.
Post by Stephane Epardaud
I'm not asking you to resolve it, I'm pointing you to where the issue is
open and documented so you can take a look at it and see if you feel up for
this project. GSoC selection happens after students apply anway, and after
they get a chance to see if they feel up to the task.
Post by shikhar deep
ok so here you have raised an issue for Ceylon CLI tool for binary
compatibility checking and you are asking me to try resolving it,right?
But sir I am completely new to open source contribution..but I am trying
my level best to understand it.
I think I have no chance to get your mentorship :(
On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 3:30:09 PM UTC+5:30, Stéphane Épardaud
Post by Stephane Epardaud
OK in that case, we have put more info at
https://github.com/ceylon/ceylon/issues/6076 about this particular issue.
Post by shikhar deep
yes it is a part of GSoC and sir you are mentor of Ceylon Programming
Language Project.Please tell me what should I do now?
On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 3:07:25 PM UTC+5:30, Stéphane Épardaud
Post by Stephane Epardaud
Hi,
Absolutely!
Is this as part of GSoC or not?
Post by shikhar deep
Respected Sir/Madam
I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
*(JVM compatibility checker). *I saw the project ideas list of JBoss
Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
->Core Java
->MySql
->C
I see myself as beginner but I am very very much interested in
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Tom Bentley
2016-03-19 07:48:23 UTC
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Well, roughly:

* Clone the ceylon project locally, and build it from source.
* Have a look at langtools-classfile (as mentioned in the issue)
* Try to use it to obtain a model of the contents of a .class file.
* Now start comparing models loaded from two separate class files,
determining changes which are not binary compatible.
* Iterate, slowly adding more checks.
* Turn it into a working tool, with nice understandable output

Report back with your progress or *specific* questions. I suggest you get a
feel for what's involved (the first two or three bullet points) before
committing to doing the work because while 2 months might seem like a lot
of time, it really isn't very long to create a working usable tool like
this.
Post by Kumar Shikhar Deep
what should be the next step sir?
Post by shikhar deep
okay.. if so then yes I am comfortable for this project.I like
programming
Post by shikhar deep
and I like challenges and moreover 2 months is a huge time,I am sure I
can
Post by shikhar deep
do it.
On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 8:26:20 PM UTC+5:30, Stéphane Épardaud
Post by Stephane Epardaud
I'm not asking you to resolve it, I'm pointing you to where the issue is
open and documented so you can take a look at it and see if you feel up for
this project. GSoC selection happens after students apply anway, and
after
Post by shikhar deep
Post by Stephane Epardaud
they get a chance to see if they feel up to the task.
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Post by Stephane Epardaud
Post by shikhar deep
ok so here you have raised an issue for Ceylon CLI tool for binary
compatibility checking and you are asking me to try resolving it,right?
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Not able to understand point 3 and 4 about models.
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* Clone the ceylon project locally, and build it from source.
* Have a look at langtools-classfile (as mentioned in the issue)
* Try to use it to obtain a model of the contents of a .class file.
* Now start comparing models loaded from two separate class files,
determining changes which are not binary compatible.
* Iterate, slowly adding more checks.
* Turn it into a working tool, with nice understandable output
Report back with your progress or *specific* questions. I suggest you get
a feel for what's involved (the first two or three bullet points) before
committing to doing the work because while 2 months might seem like a lot
of time, it really isn't very long to create a working usable tool like
this.
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what should be the next step sir?
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okay.. if so then yes I am comfortable for this project.I like
programming
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and I like challenges and moreover 2 months is a huge time,I am sure I
can
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do it.
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I'm not asking you to resolve it, I'm pointing you to where the issue
is
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open and documented so you can take a look at it and see if you feel up for
this project. GSoC selection happens after students apply anway, and
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ok so here you have raised an issue for Ceylon CLI tool for binary
compatibility checking and you are asking me to try resolving
it,right?
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But sir I am completely new to open source contribution..but I am
trying
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my level best to understand it.
I think I have no chance to get your mentorship :(
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OK in that case, we have put more info at
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yes it is a part of GSoC and sir you are mentor of Ceylon
Programming
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Not able to understand point 3 and 4 about models.
It simply means using the API provided by langtools-classfile which has
representations of Fields, Methods Attributes, ConstantPool etc. So you can
you get the Methods in a particular class from its class file, for example.
But then you need to compare the methods from two class files, and figure
out which methods have been added, which removed. The next step is then
figuring out whether something that linked against the old version would
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I want to contribute to the Ceylon Project
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Community and found this project interesting.
I also saw somewhere written that beginners too can contribute here.
I have following skills(independent learning) :
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